Resisting the Green Dragon: Fideistic worldview of radical religious fundamentalism attacks nature, environment

NOTE: This content consists of research notes, resources and links, etc. for an upcoming article which will be written over the next few weeks as time allows necessary research… thanks

While such dogmatic detritus as Resisting the Green Dragon is sure to inflame the passions of many — striking at the hearts of the intelligent, the freethinking, the critical/rational thinkers, the integral and spiritually principled, open-minded adherents of virtually all respectful, tolerant, reasonable systems of belief etc., Resisting the Green Dragon almost certainly can be explained in one of the following two ways:

  1. A sad and unfortunate situation: An unintentional misinformation campaign guilty of misguiding so many children, simple-minded, perhaps uneducated, trusting folks;
  2. A carefully designed system of corruption and evil: An intentional, systematic campaign of disinformation: A scam constructed to fill the coffers of extremist, dominionist, self-proclaimed "chosen ones" who dream of making war on secular America, tearing down the separation of church and state, and finally transforming the United States into a Bible-based society… chanting about the paranormal around a bonfire of burning science books and Buddhist pamphlets…

Yes, I’ll admit I had a little bit of writing fun with that, but in all seriousness… The primary question we must ask at this early stage is, Which is it? Is their campaign unintentionally naive — or is it much darker than that? While we certainly hope and pray it is the former, I fear the worst.

I hope other journalists, researchers, investigators, etc. — far wiser than this writer/blogger — have already successfully fully discredited Resisting the Green Dragon… making this job a relatively easy one. But having been raised in a closed system of religious fundamentalism, having actually been more like them than not for so many years, having immersed myself so deeply in fundamentalist apologetics for decades, I basically know what to expect… And that means there will be no clear winner but for the ever-present Principle of Perspective; the proverbial Eye of the Beholder. Even so, it is — I believe — an entirely worthwhile effort.

Resisting the Green Dragon spreads its message with these twelve titles:

1. The False World View of the Green Movement (Dr. E. Calvin Beisner)
2. Rescuing People from the Cult of the Green Dragon (Dr. Peter Jones)
3. Logos vs. Mysticism: Environmentalism’s Flight from Reason (Dr. Vishal Mangalwadi)
4. From Captain Planet to Avatar: The Seduction of Our Youth (Dr. Michael Farris)
5. A Brief History of Environmental Exaggerations, Myths and Downright Lies (Dr. Steven Hayward)
6. Putting Out the Dragon’s Fire on Global Warming (Dr. David Legates)
7. How “Going Green” Impoverishes You, Your Church, and Your Society (Hon. Becky Norton Dunlop)
8. Ravaging the World’s Poor (Dr. James Tonkowich)
9. The Green Face of the Pro-Death Agenda: Population Control, Abortion and Euthanasia (Dr. Charmaine Yoest)
10. Threats to Liberty and the Move Toward a Global Government (Dr. E. Calvin Beisner)
11. A Biblical Guide to Genuine Creation Stewardship (Dr. James Tonkowich)
12. Go Therefore and Make Disciples: Advancing the Gospel in a World Permeated by Environmentalism (Dr. Peter Jones)

Resources: Resisting the Green Dragon: Fideistic, fundamentalist, religious worldview attacks nature, environment

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Are they talking about Christianity itself? Whatever the Religious Right accuses others of doing, you can be rest assured that that is exactly the intent and purpose of the Religious Right itself, not its opponents.

In its unsuccessful search for a clue, Resisting Green has embraced James 4:7 as the Biblical directive for their message of hate: A verse that has absolutely nothing to do specifically with the environment or nature… More of the typical shell game of religious text interpretation, it appears.

7 Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.

It’s a real head-scratcher, to be sure.

“A lust for power… A lust for controlling others…” An accurate summary of religious fundamentalism to be sure, but what does it all mean?

Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Noah’s ark & global flood are teaching stories, not historical or scientific fact

Noah's ark: Bible story, not to be interpreted literally, or as history, or science, or factThe Genesis story of Noah’s ark and the global flood is one of many great examples serving to demonstrate that the Bible should not be taken literally. This Old Testament account is one of my all-time favorite Bible stories due to the relevant issues and difficult questions it raises – and my own history of wondering how it could possibly have happened. (It couldn’t have happened as reported.)

NEW: Please be sure to participate in our poll: Do you believe this Bible story is literally true?

Questions of realistic, proper, and above all, truthful interpretation of such stories found in the Bible represented some of my earliest conundrums as a young tween Christian fundamentalist. This applies not only to stories found in the modern Christian Bible but also to accounts found in all the other revealed religious texts that were supposedly given by God to humankind (e.g., the Pentateuch, the Mormon scriptures, the Koran, etc.).

Noah's ark, global flood - only a myth, too many problems with realityThe truth is, not everyone is capable of being intellectually honest when it comes to consideration or discussion of these matters. Most religious fundamentalists, due to their upbringing and fear of a punishing God, are unwilling or unable to conduct objective research or apply critical thought to their literally translated religious beliefs. There’s an almost insurmountable level of fear: Fear of what other church members might think, fear of God’s judgment of their doubt, fear of being sent to Hell, fear of being wrong, fear that their personal religious beliefs are false, and on and on the list of fundamentalist fears goes.

Noah's ark, global flood - only a myth, too many problems with realityI completely understand that barrier of fundamentalist fear. I experienced the very same fear myself – and I carried that fear inside of me for many years. Being raised in conservative, fundamentalist churches almost always instills a level of fear that is quite effective in preventing the honest pursuit of truth, the application of serious and honest critical thought, and so on. Although I understand that fear, I no longer agree with it. These fears are the most important fears to conquer — that is, if one desires to live a free, happy, spiritually centered life and to align one’s beliefs more closely to reality and truth.

The undeniable truth about these kinds of fundamentalist Christian beliefs and stories can come only from a careful and serious examination of alternate scenarios, conflicting teachings – and must include consideration of a variety of philosophies, opinions, and worldviews. If you are afraid to examine these things, then you will remain transfixed by fear.

For obvious reasons, fundamentalist religious environments strongly discourage the serious questioning of their teachings.

Noah's ark, global flood - only a myth, too many problems with reality - strange creaturesBe sure to cast your vote below: How should we interpret the stories of Noah’s ark and the global flood?

This post barely scratches the surface concerning Noah’s ark and world flood issues; this short article is certainly not meant to be an exhaustive criticism of the belief in – or the literal interpretation of – these Bible stories. The Noah’s ark and global flood accounts in Genesis – purely myth and legend, clearly – already have wide coverage on the web by those representing both sides of the issue. (See the Resources section of this post.)

The questions posed below represent only a few of the many potentially problematic points concerning Noah’s ark and the world flood. I’ll never forget asking myself these and other questions as a curious, inquisitive young fundamentalist who yearned to know the truth – and these questions still serve as interesting food for thought for anyone who believes critical thought is important. (Hint: It is.)

Noah's ark, global flood - only a myth, too many problems with realityIt’s obvious from speaking with friends and relatives that many people, regardless of age, still ask themselves whether to take the Noah’s Ark and global flood – and many other Biblical accounts – at face value.

It seems clear that modern man is not meant to interpret the Bible in a literal sense – especially stories such as these which raise questions with few reasonable answers. The main reason is that the Source (or Mother Nature, God, universal intelligence, or whatever you prefer to call the true universal creative force) – should it “think” – would surely expect man to use natural, “God-given,” human qualities like intelligence, logic, reason, and so on – as well as scientific discovery – in the process of determining what to believe and what to consider parable, legend, poetry, or other types of storytelling. These truth-telling qualities, when used, show that much of the Bible was never meant for mankind to take literally.

In the absence of tools like logic and reason, how could a person possibly come to accept any views other than those taught during one’s upbringing? Without logic and reason, one would have no choice but to stick with whatever teachings one learned as a child – no matter how outrageous or ridiculous they may be in the face of intellectual honesty and science.

The truth is this: Honestly considered, deep critical thinking concerning only the plight of the elephants alone is more than enough to show that the story of Noah’s ark cannot be taken literally.

If you still believe the Old Testament story of Noah’s ark and the global flood represent actual history and are literally true, here are a few ark-related questions and comments for you to carefully & honestly consider.

I beg of you – please be as honest and objective as possible in your careful consideration and research of these matters.

Selected difficulties re: Noah’s ark/global flood story

This section deals primarily with some of the practical and logistical issues concerning the animals and the ark.

    Noah's ark, global flood - only a myth, too many problems with reality
  1. Why would a loving, perfect, inerrant God have the need to wipe out virtually all life on earth and start over in the first place?
  2. How did Noah collect animals from remote areas of the world, on separate continents, even across the globe from Noah’s location and the ark construction site? Did the animals somehow navigate to Noah’s position, or did the family travel all over the world to gather the creatures? For example, polar bears, koalas, Komodo Dragons, Galapagos Tortoises, anacondas, and thousands of other creatures would have had to travel incredible distances to make it to the ark… assuming these animals knew where to go in the first place. (Fundum-answer 1: All the animals that ever existed were living in the immediate area. Fundum-answer 2: It just worked out miraculously.)
  3. After being released on Mt. Arafat, how did these animals return to their respective parts of the world? For instance, how did the giant Galapagos Tortoises walk to the remote Galapagos Islands? Polar bears, koalas, Komodo Dragons, anacondas, and thousands of other creatures would have had to return to their respective areas of origin in order to survive – yet this was not physically possible in most cases.
  4. How were the carnivorous animals fed? Even if there were only a pair of lions and no other big cats or bears, they would have required hundreds of other animals to eat during the year on the boat.
  5. red-tailed hawk at Nashville's Radnor Lake

  6. How did marine life survive? Some depend on salt or fresh water, not a mixture of salt and fresh water.
  7. Where were all the supplies stored? The size of the ark was not nearly sufficient to hold all the required food, not to mention all the animals and their waste. For instance, elephants eat several hundred pounds of vegetation per day.
  8. What about the survival of millions of species of bugs, spiders, and microscopic organisms? If not carried on the ark, they would have been completely wiped out.
  9. We now know that dirt – moist earth itself – is comprised largely of living organisms so small and numerous they could not possibly have been carried on the ark.
  10. Barred owl at Nashville's Radnor Lake

  11. We’ve discovered many creatures that can survive only in extreme environments, such as within glaciers and other ice; next to superheated, underwater volcanic vents; in extremely salty or briny water; in highly acidic or alkaline environments; and the list goes on. Such creatures could not possibly have been saved on a boat.
  12. Why did Noah have to send a bird to determine what should have been clearly evident – that the floodwaters had abated?
  13. What did the herbivores eat after vacating the ark? All the plant life on earth was long dead, having been underwater for about one year.
  14. How did the whites, blacks, Chinese, Arabs, and all other human races evolve so quickly from the sole survivors of the flood? According to the genealogy found in the Bible, all races on earth sprang forth from the ark survivors in less than 5,000 years.
  15. Why was there talk of clean and unclean animals, when, at the time, the official rules regarding such had not even been handed down?
  16. The waste alone coming from all these animals would amount to hundreds of pounds per day, and scooping up all of this poop would have been a full-time job in itself. I wonder who had that job?
  17. Elephants eat about 150 pounds of fresh vegetation per day; therefore, the pair of elephants on Noah’s ark would have required around 63,000 pounds of fresh vegetation, hay, fruits and vegetables, etc. During the seven months or so (a very conservative estimate) the elephants were stuck on the ark, where did their food come from? How and where was all the food for all the animals collected and stored on the ark? Just this 63,000 pounds of elephant food would have taken up a large area.

There are also serious issues surrounding the quantity of wood required, the impossibly large size for a wooden ship, the availability of pitch or tar, the construction of all the animal cages,…

Radnor Lake animalsIn the interest of objectivity and fairness, this blog will always strive to provide the best publicly available resources, representing both sides of the issues at hand. For example, we are including (in the Resources sections below) links to sites that claim the story of Noah’s Ark is factual; that it’s supposed to be taken literally – despite how preposterous the assertion actually is.

Perhaps the saddest, most unfortunate aspect of all this is that so few hard right fundamentalist Christians even take pause to carefully, objectively, independently consider these matters in the first place. Those who are thoughtful, intelligent, and bold enough to apply critical thought to their religious beliefs and the related questions are often…

  1. Discouraged from discussing the notoriously difficult issues with assertions that such doubt is wrong, or will provoke God’s judgment – or even wrath!
  2. Encouraged not to take their doubts and questions seriously, noting a “weak faith” or some such…
  3. Given ridiculous, unbelievable, sloppily contrived, standard, and patently false "answer" to every difficult question…

… and often, all of the above – at least, that’s the way it was in the Brentwood churches and in the Nashville private Christian fundamentalist schools attended by me and my friends in the 1970s and 80s (centered on Church of Christ beliefs).

Inconsistencies, historical, and scientific problems with literal interpretation of Noah’s ark/ global flood stories

  • How can the Genesis account be considered factual when these stories are so obviously re-imaginings of so many competing stories and similar myths from other cultures and religions?
  • Flood Stories from Around the World – The dozens of flood stories and accounts shown here originated from world folklore, myth, culture, religions, etc. Flood stories, myths, and legends have been included in this list if (1) they are stories; (2) they are folklore, not historical accounts or fiction by a known author; and (3) they involve a flood – often a global deluge.
  • Arkaeology – Alan Towsey reviews The Discovery of Noah’s Ark by David Fasold
  • The whole silly Flood story – Creationists are probably more defensive about the Flood than any other part of their mythology. One indication of that is the fact that the seminal work of modern creationism (oxymoron) was called The Genesis Flood. The Flood story apparently required lots of explanation and justification if anyone were to take creationism seriously…
  • The depths of the oceans are incompatible with a global flood model
  • A Response to the Penny Setterfield-Fryman Global Flood Scenario – Creationists lack a coherent global flood model; a young-earth creationist named Penny Fryman-Setterfield has responded with a model…
  • That boat don’t float – Large floating wooden structures/boats invariably suffer fatal engineering flaws…
  • The Real Poop on the Global Flood – What were turtles doing coming ashore during the global flood, when there wasn’t supposed to be any land?
  • Dr. Marty Leipzig looks at the mathematics of Noah’s Flood
  • Noah’s Ark myth explained – The tantalising findings of a UK scientist published this month have revealed a possible explanation for the Noah’s Ark myth as well as compelling evidence global warming and a rise in sea level may have encouraged the development of farming and settled civilisation.
  • The Kiwi Question – Creationist arguments are so inane, they induce speechlessness, blank stares and can thus hardly be refuted!

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Resources: Noah’s ark

Noah’s ark is NOT a true story

Noah’s ark IS a true story

Still other opinions…

Noah’s ark references noted while searching for images

  1. This is the most recently updated portion of this post (April 17, 2012).
    Posts Tagged Noah’s Ark – End Times Revelations — More fundamentalist fantasy, supernatural drivel, and whatnot… For entertainment purposes only
  2. Noah’s Ark found? – Daily News
  3. Could Noah’s ark really have happened? – How Stuff Works – History section — The answer is "Not bloody likely."
  4. Noah’s Park: Kentucky ‘Ark Encounter’ Plans Full Scale Replica of Noah’s Ark — Why does this remind me of the creation museum (from Bill Maher’s documentary, Religulous)? Only in Kentucky…
  5. Noah’s ark, from the perspective of a dog
  6. Hong Kong Christens an Ark of Biblical Proportions – Wall Street Journal Online
  7. Noah’s Ark – Militant Atheist
  8. Noah…Where Are The Dinosaurs?: Full-Scale Noah’s Ark Replica To Be Built In Cincinnati – Geekologie
  9. Noah’s Ark pictures, paintings – Maritime Quest

Fantasy: Noah’s Ark discovered!

Noah in Islam, Noah in Judaism

Biblical inerrancy, Bible interpretation issues

Art, paintings of Noah’s ark

Although sometimes I’m in a hurry, I prefer to add images to my blog posts; it seems to make the page so much more interesting – certainly more aesthetically pleasing. As I was using Google Images to find art on the subject of Noah’s ark, I made a point to note some of the sites I found – please enjoy.

Please help spread the message any way you can:

  1. Fundamentalism — whether religious or political — is one of the true, major, current scourges on the planet; nothing good can come from it.
  2. The way forward for all mankind is to embrace basic universal spiritual principles in all affairs.
  3. Individuals, groups, and nations should not expect others to adopt their own culture-specific or religion-specific traditions, practices, or beliefs; instead, mutual respect should reign.

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I don’t think very many Christians interpret the Noah’s ark story literally anymore, but I’ll include it nonetheless, in case you happen to be one of them.

  • The Bible contradicts itself regarding whether or not any man has ever seen God.
  • Science, religion, and conspiracy theory:

    Interesting American beliefs, per the polls

    Executive summary: (provided in this case due to length) This post touches on more subjects than it should: opinion polls, a hopeful view of science and religion, the two main logical fallacies used or implied in opinion poll results, 9/11 conspiracy theory, poll results about American beliefs, relationship of IQ and education level to supernatural belief systems, beliefs about creationism and evolution, interpreting ambiguous poll questions, weighing the human soul, and quite a few resources on the web for all these subjects. I may soon break this post up into several smaller, more succinct and cohesive posts.

    We Americans seem to be utterly hooked on polls. Poll results can be boring, encouraging, discouraging, enthralling, or even shocking in some cases – particularly with regard to those subjects we regard with passion and zeal. Sure, polls get old and wear us out on occasion (most notably in politics, during an election cycle), but our interest always returns. Many of us find opinion polls about religion, science, belief, and spirituality to be among the most interesting of them all.

    Relationship of science and religion

    The relationship between science and religion is often considered to be tenuous and uneasy at best; however, I agree with those who view science and religion as a false dichotomy.

    The way I see it, truth is truth; and even though mankind has only just begun to discover truth, I believe this lively pair will eventually enjoy reconciliation. However, science and religion probably won’t enjoy real harmony until serious challenges to long-held beliefs are fully worked through and ultimately resolved. (Idealistic? Very.) Given that the age of science is still in its infancy, I have the feeling the marriage of science and religion is still a long ways off – but this doesn’t mean we shouldn’t make every effort to help them get along nicely.

    Polls and logical fallacies

    Poll results are, in a sense, a wide open door to the employment of logical fallacies (mistakes made in the process of human reasoning) – the argumentum ad populem fallacy in particular, and to a lesser extent, the appeal to authority. Spin masters are often paid incredible salaries for their ability to apply creativity to statistical reporting for the purpose of swaying the largely gullible populous in a certain direction by making a particular person, place, thing, event, etc. seem superior to the alternative choices.

    One should be wary of poll results and their interpretation; if the findings of a particular poll are truly important to you for any reason, be sure to ask the right questions and then frame the results in the appropriate context.

    Argumentum ad populem is the ultimate implied poll-related logical fallacy because it wants us to believe that X is true simply because Y (%), a certain number (or percentage) of people, believe it to be true. It never ceases to amaze, amuse, and sometimes frustrate me that some folks actually consider majority opinion (such as a given percentage of Americans who believe in that particular thing [X]) as being evidence that X is factual and true. Of course, as to the reality or truth of the point in question, it doesn’t matter how many people believe or disbelieve in X. It’s quite possible for 98% percent of Americans to wholeheartedly believe in a falsehood while 2% actually know the truth; in this sense, numbers and percentages are irrelevant. This commonplace error in reasoning goes by many names, including “appeal to the masses,” “appeal to belief,” “appeal to the people,” “appeal to the majority,” “authority of the many,” “argument by consensus,” “bandwagon fallacy,” “argumentum ad numerum,” etc.

    Another popular logical fallacy, often called the “argument from authority” or “appeal to authority” (I’m suddenly reminded of Eric Cartman) is also frequently used in attempts to spin poll results. It concludes X to be true because Y (e.g., a group of educated scientists, the Pope, Mom and Dad) believe X to be true. If the argument from authority sounds a lot like the aforementioned bandwagon fallacy, you’re right: both are fallacies of relevance (one of the many categories of reasoning errors). “Relevance” makes perfect sense; after all, who believes something and how many people believe something are completely irrelevant to how true that particular something might be.

    9/11 conspiracy theories

    Many Americans still believe that the U.S. played a role in 9/11.

    A 2006 poll taken by Scripps Howard along with Ohio University showed that over one third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, or otherwise took no action to stop the attacks in order to allow the U.S. to go to war. The most prominent theory is that the WTC collapses were the result of controlled demolitions (rather than structural weakening due to high heat from fire). Another prominent belief is that the Pentagon was hit by a missile launched by elements from inside the U.S. government, or that a commercial airliner was allowed to crash into the Pentagon due to a purposeful stand-down of the U.S. military. Various motives are often cited by conspiracy theorists which often include justifying the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions and strategic interests in the Middle East such as oil pipelines.

    Even well into into 2011, those old 9/11-related conspiracy theories seem to have remained the number one theorized conspiracy in the world, according to this Feb. 2011 list.

    According to the 2009 Harris Poll
    40% of American adults believe in creationism as per the Old Testament.
    45% believe in Darwin’s theory of evolution.
    60% of American adults believe that the devil actually exists.
    42% of Americans believe in ghosts.
    32% believe in UFOs.
    26% of American adults believe in astrology.
    23% believe in witches.
    20% believe in reincarnation, that they were once someone else.

    Education, IQ, and religious belief systems

    The degree of literal religious belief one holds – in small part, at least – depends upon one’s education level; there was found to be a very strong negative correlation between the level of education and paranormal beliefs. The more education one had received, the less likely the respondent was to hold a literal paranormal belief — such as in ghosts, or a real, existing evil force such as the devil, for instance. The lower the level of education of the respondent, the greater was the likelihood of paranormal and/or literal religious beliefs.

    Likewise, a strong negative correlation has likewise been shown in numerous comparisons of IQ and religious belief. This is not meant to be surprising, as this has been a standard trend in the kinds of polls that track this information as early as the 1920s. Likewise, religious readers should not feel slighted in the least: there are certainly quite a few intelligent religious folks – and plenty of slow atheists and freethinkers, to boot! Another reminder: using intelligence or education as evidence of a particular belief, while very interesting, is yet another fallacy of relevance when it comes down to proof.

    Evolution, creationism, and intelligent design

    It is interesting to note that most polls no longer seem to imply a strict choice between evolution and God; most questions concerning creationism and evolution now include a third option of intelligent design or God-guided evolution (in addition to the usual “don’t know” or “no opinion” answer). It is very interesting how quickly evolution has come to be accepted in some form by most people. Thankfully — as of 2005, at least — a respectable percentage of Americans would not be upset about whether creationism or evolution was taught at their children’s school; however, 30% of Americans at that time would be upset if only evolution were taught and creationism not. (One might wonder how this number is trending today; hopefully, an attitude of tolerance is gaining.)

    As previously stated, four out of ten American adults currently believe in strict creationism; that is, they believe that God created humans in their present form around 10,000 years ago. (Does that mean this group in general also rejects scientific dating methods and dinosaurs? Is this a fair assumption – anyone?)

    This number is slightly down from past years. Interestingly, among Republicans, the belief in strict creationism jumps from 40% all the way up to 60%! Such a large percentage of Republicans apparently subscribes to something akin to Young Earth Creationism: interesting. If this is accurate, then it serves as the primary explanation for the Bush administration’s lackluster (at best) attitude toward science.

    Thirty-eight percent (38%) of polled American adults now believe that God has been guiding an evolutionary process by which humans have developed from less advanced life forms over millions of years. Sixteen percent (16%) of American adults — up slightly from years past — believe in “secular evolution,” or that humans developed over millions of years without God’s involvement.

    In looking at the Gallup poll results over the years, it appears fewer and fewer people believe are willing to believe that God created man in man’s present form; conversely, the belief in secular evolution seems to be on a slow, gradual rise in the United States.

    (NOTE: Please see the references below for links to other articles, studies, and polls used in this post and other relevant, potentially worthwhile resources.)

    Interpreting poll questions

    One of my first questions regarding opinion polls (especially about supernatural beliefs and other loosely defined subjects) would be with regard to the precise meaning of the questions themselves, or the assumptions that should be used in the polling process. For example, exactly what does it mean to “believe in witches”? It could represent:

    • a belief that some people honestly subscribe to Wicca-like belief systems (very true) – or, quite differently, it could indicate
    • the belief that supernatural spells are successfully cast upon others by modern witches (highly dubious).

    These two interpretations of the exact same question are very different, and one must wonder whether the polling process takes this into account. If not, then it seems the poll results would be less meaningful -or perhaps devoid of meaning altogether.

    UFOs represent a fascinating subject. As far as opinion polling goes, though, what are the ground rules and base definitions that apply to questions about UFOs? Does “believing in UFOs” mean:

    1. Objects have been seen in the skies throughout history that could not be positively identified.
      True. This is perfectly believable and is certainly factual, as far as this author can tell – unless every single object ever seen in the sky by humans of all time has been positively identified! As certainly as I now live and breathe and write these words, at least one object seen in the sky throughout history was never positively identified and could thus be considered to be an unidentified flying object, or a UFO.
    2. Intelligent life (something akin to little green men, or perhaps the more recently popularized type of alien known as the Grays) has visited our planet using a method of travel far more technically advanced than our own.
      Dubious, or at least questionable (the Fermi paradox). Visitation of earth by such beings is a somewhat far-fetched notion according to many scientists, given that traveling the required distance is beyond all known technology, coupled with the probable extreme rarity of technologically advanced beings in the universe. FYI, I freely grant the existence of many other life forms throughout the massive universe, but intelligent life is another matter entirely.

    The two assumptions above are light years apart (pun phun). Such wildly varying understandings, viewpoints, assumptions, and interpretations in opinion polling probably makes answers to such questions virtually meaningless, at least in some cases. That said, the answers are also occasionally interesting!

    Weighing the human soul

    Do some people actually believe that proof of the soul lies in the weight difference of a body just before and after death? According to sillybeliefs.com, this is just an urban myth:

    [Jeanette] Wilson was claiming that scientists have weighed the human soul. The interviewer tried to get her to explain how a spiritual, immaterial soul that contains no mass, and therefore no weight, can be weighed. I don’t think Wilson even grasped the problem with her argument, merely stating that she didn’t understand the details, but that the scientists knew what they were doing. She couldn’t name the scientists, or when or where their experiments were carried out. In fact her belief that the soul has been weighed is an urban myth, and can be traced to a Dr. Duncan MacDougall of Haverhill, Massachusetts. He did attempt this in 1907, but his experiments were flawed and the results are not accepted. (http://www.sillybeliefs.com/wilson.html#heading-1b)

    (NOTE: Many more obscure beliefs can be found at sillybeliefs.com [“Scams and Delusions Exposed!”], based in New Zealand.)

    In its section about religious urban myths, snopes.com – the “Urban Legend Reference Pages” – addresses the issue of human soul-weighing and goes into great detail about the history of related experiments (making this notion more than just an urban myth). Apparently, the 2003 film 21 Grams was based on this belief.

    Much more to come

    The convergence of religion, spirituality, science, reason, logic, philosophy, history, et al — is simply too fascinating and important to ignore. I’ll be posting much more on related subjects here in the future.

    NOTE: This post was written on Wednesday, January 5, 2011, then updated and posted to this new blog (Search for truth at allisnow.com) on Thursday, March 10, 2011. This is the first post to this blog, which will serve as the home of my writings about religion, science, and spirituality until further notice. (I’m considering creating a separate blog at greenism.org to serve as the primary location for this subject matter.) Thanks for reading this. I have not publicized this blog yet, so I probably sent you this link. I would appreciate any comments, positive or negative. I appreciate your time and I hope you found this to be entertaining, interesting, or even enlightening to some degree.

    Resources

    Relationship between science and religion

    Opinion polls

    Logical fallacies

    Conspiracy theory

    Weighing the soul

    Polls about beliefs

    Intelligence, education, and supernatural beliefs